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	<title>Armando Fox</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Two weeks with Kindle&#8230;survey says &#8220;thumbs up&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I&#8217;m back from my annual two-week &#8220;unplugged&#8221; vacation where I catchup on my non-work reading, and this year I decided to take the plunge and get an Amazon Kindle. I read about 8 books on Kindle (+5 print books) during my 2 weeks away, and here&#8217;s my initial impressions of using it.EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:An outstanding [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;m back from my annual two-week &#8220;unplugged&#8221; vacation where I catchup on my non-work reading, and this year I decided to take the plunge and get an Amazon Kindle. I read about 8 books on Kindle (+5 print books) during my 2 weeks away, and here&#8217;s my initial impressions of using it.<span style="font-weight: bold" class="Apple-style-span">EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:</span>An outstanding replacement for mass-market and most trade paperbacks and many hardbacks. Not a replacement for technical books, articles, arbitrary PDFs, etc. A good rule of thumb seems to be that a text that could be reasonably rendered using a simple markup format like Pod or Javadoc will read well on the Kindle. Books with lots of graphs/tables/figures, complex layout, or where typography matters, will not read well. <span style="font-weight: bold" class="Apple-style-span">THE GOOD:</span>
<ul>
<li>User experience of browsing, buying books, etc. is nicely integrated, though browsing the Kindle Store on the device itself is a little like browsing Web 1.0 pages on a black-and-white, 640&#215;480 computer over slow dialup. (The omission of Wifi is baffling.)</li>
<li>Pricing model for books is defensible: bestsellers $10 (typically that&#8217;s less than half price of the print hardback), mass market paperbacks around $6, older titles as low as $3. If you consider the device a sunk cost, it often makes good economic sense to buy a Kindle edition, even compared to buying a used print copy.</li>
<li>The user experience of actually reading is great. It&#8217;s lighter and easier to hold than even a mass-market paperback. </li>
<li>I&#8217;m often in the middle of several books at a time. Flipping among them is trivial and your bookmarks are automatically remembered. This will make me read more, by eliminating the minor inconvenience of getting my butt out of the chair to swap out books.</li>
<li>Most important by far: I traveled with 10.3 ounces, rather than about 15 pounds. With per-bag luggage fees, carry-on limits, and just the fact that I like to travel light, this trumps virtually every weakness of the device.</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold" class="Apple-style-span">THE NOT-SO-GOOD:</span>
<ul>
<li>I&#8217;ve been carping about the lack of PDF support. (Amazon&#8217;s PDF &#8220;converter&#8221; is terrible, yielding mostly-unusable versions of anything that&#8217;s not mostly text.) However, I&#8217;m beginning to come around to the fact that this device is a one-trick pony: it&#8217;s my non-work-documents reader. I&#8217;m looking at an iRex Iliad, which has a letter-size display that&#8217;s also touch sensitive, handles PDF&#8217;s, and allows annotations with a stylus, as a companion device for technical documents. In a sense, complaining that I can&#8217;t read letter-size technical articles on this device would be a bit like complaining that a mass-market paperback is not the right format for technical books.</li>
<li>Although you can change the font size while reading, apparently you can&#8217;t change the actual font. There&#8217;s evidently one sans-serif font (Helvetica) and one serif font (blockier than Times) on the device. They&#8217;re fine to read, but you lose any aesthetics of typography. This is fine if your reading material would otherwise have been mass-market paperback; it may be an annoying omission in other cases, especially for typography geeks like me. </li>
<li>Amazingly, while the table of contents of all books I purchased were hyperlinked, neither footnotes nor indices are. It doesn&#8217;t seem like this would be hard to do in a markup format (which is evidently what&#8217;s being used here,I assume something like <a href="http://docbook.org">DocBook</a> as opposed to a page-description format).</li>
<li>The page-flip buttons are arranged in such a way that it&#8217;s easy to hit them by accident. A simple fix would be software-controllable configuration of what those buttons do (e.g. so I could disable the ones I don&#8217;t use, since the functionality on some buttons is redundant).</li>
<li>The scroll-wheel menus are awkward for &#8220;two-dimensional&#8221; GUI displays, which crop up occasionally when you&#8217;re browsing the Kindle Store on the device itself.</li>
<li>In general, the Store UI could be streamlined to minimize the number of (SLOW) wireless roundtrips and screen redraws when exploring a book title, reading reviews, etc. I assume a forthcoming software update will fix this.</li>
<li>As is well known, the selection of titles available for Kindle is a tiny fraction of the print title selection (though still a lot better than for any other ebook reader AFAIK). But if you read as much as I do, there&#8217;s always something worth having.</li>
<li>Why does this thing have an MP3 player (which I didn&#8217;t use, and for which there is no comparable &#8220;seamless&#8221; download experience) but not Wifi?  Who listens to music while reading?</li>
<li>The price is way too high ($360 currently) but I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll go down. I&#8217;d like to see these kinds of devices more widely adopted if only for the positive environmental implications. For now, it&#8217;s a luxury for those of us who read a whole lot and are willing to pay a premium for early adoption.</li>
<li>I&#8217;m not going to wring my hands over DRM right now; Apple&#8217;s iTunes Music Store eventually became DRM-free once there was a large established market for the product (which isn&#8217;t yet true of Kindle ebooks) and a seamless buyer experience (which largely is true of Kindle), so there&#8217;s no fundamental reason this couldn&#8217;t happen for ebooks. </li>
</ul>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold">SIMPLE THINGS I&#8217;D LIKE TO SEE:</span> 
<ul>
<li>I&#8217;m going to try running Amazon&#8217;s HTML-to-Kindle converter on the output of <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">latex2html,</span> which usually produces a very usable HTML version from LaTeX source. That might at least give me a way to read documents for which I have the LaTeX source. </li>
<li>I&#8217;d like to identify a &#8220;one-click&#8221; formatting pipeline for putting public domain etexts (eg from Project Gutenberg) on the Kindle. Anyone know of one?</li>
<li>I&#8217;d like to see the DRM extended to allow me to &#8220;loan&#8221; a Kindle book to another user not registered to my same account. During that time, the book would be unavailable on my Kindle until the other user &#8220;returns&#8221; it. My guess is this would dampen a lot of the fair-use handwringing and be a reasonable compromise. Note that the machinery for this already exists, since you can &#8220;return&#8221; a Kindle book you didn&#8217;t mean to purchase, causing it to be erased from your Kindle before your money is refunded. (Note that you can buy up to 6 Kindles registered on a single Amazon account, and titles <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">can</span> be shared among those.) </li>
<li>Similarly&#8230;I&#8217;d like to be able to &#8220;borrow&#8221; one of a fixed number of circulating e-copies of a book from, say, the San Francisco Public Library.  The New York Public Library and a few others currently do this for Mobipocket format (DRM&#8217;d) ebooks, but these can&#8217;t be read on Kindle (although <a href="http://packratstudios.com/index.php/2008/05/04/how-to-hack-your-amazon-kindle-to-read-all-your-ebooks-and-documents-including-pdf-doc-xls-chm-lit-etc/">a hack </a>allows non-DRM&#8217;d Mobipocket format books to be read on Kindle).</li>
<li>The decision not to include Wifi (falling back to EVDO, iPhone-style) is baffling. In Mexico I had good Wifi access but no EVDO. At home, the EVDO bandwidth isn&#8217;t great and I&#8217;d rather use my home Wifi.</li>
<li>The UI is inconsistent and sometimes confusing. What&#8217;s a &#8220;clipping&#8221; vs. a &#8220;note&#8221; vs. a &#8220;hilight&#8221; vs. a &#8220;mark&#8221;? The navigation UI for these annotation-type things is not very graceful.</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold" class="Apple-style-span">BOTTOM LINE:</span> I like it and I&#8217;m keeping it. I probably will never travel without it; the extent to which it replaces print books (especially as I&#8217;m a big library borrower) for at-home and at-work reading remains to be seen.<span style="font-weight: bold" class="Apple-style-span"></span></p>
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		<title>I want to see an ebook reader bitch-slap fight</title>
		<link>http://radlab.cs.berkeley.edu/people/fox/wp/2008/07/10/i-want-to-see-an-ebook-reader-bitch-slap-fight/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boy, I had no clue how many ebook reader choices are already out there. Most seem to be based on eInk&#8217;s
The ebook readers from Astak look promising, but even the cheap one (5&#8243; screen) is not shipping yet. The iRex Iliad looks promising too, but expensive at USD699 for the large-screen (8.1&#8243;) version, though it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, I had no clue how many ebook reader choices are already out there. Most seem to be based on eInk&#8217;s<br />
The ebook <a href="http://www.astak.com/5Ebook_Reader.html">readers from Astak</a> look promising, but even the cheap one (5&#8243; screen) is not shipping yet. The <a href="http://www.irextechnologies.com/products/iliad">iRex Iliad</a> looks promising too, but expensive at USD699 for the large-screen (8.1&#8243;) version, though it does have a stylus touchscreen and seems more general than just reading (marketing copy claims you can &#8220;read comics, sketch, play Sudoku or crossword puzzles&#8230;&#8221; on it, though I prefer a one-trick pony that does its trick really well, like the beautifully designed <a href="http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle">iPod Shuffle</a>.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no longer considering the <a href="http://www.bookeen.com">Bookeen Cybook</a> after one of its users <a href="http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23732">reported</a> that full-page (letter/A4) PDF files are often unusable due to the smaller screen. I intend to read not only technical books but technical papers, so that&#8217;s a dealbreaker for me, and I&#8217;m looking seriously at the Iliad as a result.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long complained that if only the Kindle supported PDF, I&#8217;d buy that, but I&#8217;m not so sure anymore: virtually all the other readers support the Mobipocket format (which has both DRM&#8217;d and non-DRM&#8217;d variants), and if there is anything worse than a DRM&#8217;d ebook format, it&#8217;s <strong><em>two </em></strong>incompatible DRM&#8217;d ebook formats (Amazon Kindle has its own .AZW format, and while the Kindle supports Mobipocket, it&#8217;s hard for me to get behind a device whose main contribution seems to be a new DRM format).</p>
<p>I definitely want to have one of these loaded up with stuff before our big family vacation in August, so I guess I&#8217;ll have to make a decision by then&#8230;you&#8217;d think academics who read a lot and cart around sheaves of papers printed out from PDF files would be a great early-adopter audience, but only the iLiad seems to be targeting them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Hackers &#038; Painters: Big Ideas from the Computer Age&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://radlab.cs.berkeley.edu/people/fox/wp/2008/07/05/hackers-painters-big-ideas-from-the-computer-age/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul Graham&#8217;s interesting book has a lot of refreshingly iconoclastic ideas around the art and craft of hacking and how that impinges on the Real World, startups, universities, language design, etc. Unfortunately the density of great stuff doesn&#8217;t quite justify reading the whole book, but I really liked the chapter called &#8220;Revenge of the Nerds&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Graham&#8217;s interesting <a href="http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/55499541">book</a> has a lot of refreshingly iconoclastic ideas around the art and craft of hacking and how that impinges on the Real World, startups, universities, language design, etc. Unfortunately the density of great stuff doesn&#8217;t quite justify reading the whole book, but I really liked the chapter called &#8220;Revenge of the Nerds&#8221; about the &#8220;evolution&#8221; of programming languages and how they are becoming more Lisp-like, to the point that we&#8217;re almost caught up to 1960. Worth a (quick) read for hackers, who will find much to identify with written in a style of discourse that&#8217;s natural to them.</p>
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		<title>Why I still don&#8217;t have an eBook reader</title>
		<link>http://radlab.cs.berkeley.edu/people/fox/wp/2008/07/05/why-i-still-dont-have-an-ebook-reader/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My typical packing list for a beach vacation: bathing suit, t-shirt, shades, and 30 pounds of books, plus geek manuscripts in PDF format. You&#8217;d think I&#8217;d be the perfect eBook candidate, being an early adopter and all. But they all suck one way or another. Never mind usability; never mind the ~$400 price tag. The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My typical packing list for a beach vacation: bathing suit, t-shirt, shades, and 30 pounds of books, plus geek manuscripts in PDF format. You&#8217;d think I&#8217;d be the perfect eBook candidate, being an early adopter and all. But they all suck one way or another. Never mind usability; never mind the ~$400 price tag. The dealbreaker is that the content situation is laughable, to wit:</p>
<p>Amazon&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/kindle">Kindle</a> has a pretty good selection, and they&#8217;re at least priced intelligently (~50% of print edition), but you can&#8217;t view PDF documents on it. Yes, I know about the &#8220;converter&#8221;. It doesn&#8217;t process tables or figures, making it useless for any technical PDF&#8217;s, which for me is most PDF&#8217;s. The  <a href="http://bookeen.com">CyBook</a> uses the Mobipocket DRM format, which is sold by dozens of half-assed retailers whose selection and reputation aren&#8217;t even a fraction of Amazon&#8217;s and whose pricing is stupid—the ebook costs the same as the print edition, and I can&#8217;t even donate it to my library when I&#8217;m done with it. But the CyBook does render PDF, so I could at least use it for geek books, technical articles, <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org">Gutenberg</a> downloads, etc.</p>
<p>Some libraries have started <a href="http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/EBook_Lending_Libraries">ebook lending</a>.  But the NY Public Library, whose print collection exceeds 50 million volumes, has exactly 945 Fiction titles available in ebook form—most available as only one or the other of Mobipocket or Adobe eBook. Given that Adobe manages to crap on every product they put out, and that Adobe Reader still holds my grand prize for crashing Firefox &amp; Safari, I don&#8217;t even want to go near Adobe&#8217;s ebook format, which they popularized in part by distributing DRM&#8217;d versions of Gutenberg etexts.</p>
<p>The book industry seems to be doing its very best to imitate the visionary RIAA and MPAA. I imagine at some point the book industry&#8217;s proctologist will call them to tell them that he&#8217;s found their head. Until then I&#8217;ll keep lugging dead trees around.</p>
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		<title>Adobe software shamefully, frustratingly incompetent</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve long known that Adobe software is among the most unstable and sports the ugliest, least intuitive, inconsistent UI&#8217;s of any Mac software I&#8217;ve ever had. I just went through the experience of dowloading the &#8220;free trial&#8221; (30 days) of Adobe Flash CS3 Pro, just because I want to develop some apps for my new [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve long known that Adobe software is among the most unstable and sports the ugliest, least intuitive, inconsistent UI&#8217;s of any Mac software I&#8217;ve ever had. I just went through the experience of dowloading the &#8220;free trial&#8221; (30 days) of Adobe Flash CS3 Pro, just because I want to develop some apps for my new <a href="http://www.chumby.com">Chumby</a>.</p>
<p>Download the free trial version: 750 MB.</p>
<p>The downloaded disk image contained a non-folder icon called &#8220;Adobe CS3&#8243;.  So I did what Mac users always do—I tried dragging it to my Applications folder. The Finder popped up a dialog that eventually stabilized at &#8220;Preparing to copy 109,775 items.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s going to take awhile. I stopped the copy and poked around and finally realized the non-folder icon <em>is actually a folder—</em>nice job, Adobe—inside of which I  found a Setup program.  Aha, I thought, the Setup installer should be faster than actually trying to copy 109,775 separate files.</p>
<p><em>Wrong. The installer took</em> <strong>45 minutes</strong> on a 1.5 GHz PowerPC G4 Mac.</p>
<p>Then I had to download a 58 MB software update to get the Flash Lite 3 functionality recommended for Chumby developers. <em>Not including download time, </em> the updater took  <strong>1 hour and 45 minutes to apply a 58MB &#8220;patch&#8221;.</strong></p>
<p>During this time, you&#8217;re not allowed to open any Web browsers, as the updater insists on updating various  browser plug-ins. (But it doesn&#8217;t tell you when during the 1 hour and 45 minutes this occurs, so you have to forgo Web browsing the whole time.)</p>
<p>This &#8220;free trial&#8221; download experience does not encourage me to shell out the <strong><em>$995 </em></strong>Adobe wants for the product. (Hell, at my consulting rate, it&#8217;s already cost 2/3 of that to install the damn product.)</p>
<p>Maybe Adobe is used to Windows users accepting this level of user insult. Their PDF reader plugins for Web browsers are spectacularly unstable (Mac Preview is far superior), and even after CS3 was installed, it takes 30 seconds just to start up.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s finally happened: I&#8217;ve found other desktop software that makes Microsoft Office a dream by comparison.  How sad from the company that basically invented PC imaging and multimedia. If I can find an open-source toolchain for Chumby development, I&#8217;ll use it even if I can get an Adobe academic license for free. This product deserves to LOSE.</p>
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		<title>Always take your iPhone</title>
		<link>http://radlab.cs.berkeley.edu/people/fox/wp/2008/05/13/always-take-your-iphone/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my quest to pack ultra-light for my UK trip, I debated whether to bring my iPhone, since I didn&#8217;t really plan to pay AT&#38;T&#8217;s high roaming rates. Ultimately, I brought it because I figured I could find enough Wifi hotspots to use the data features even if I made no calls.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my quest to pack ultra-light for my <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=en&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=101586140092599729523.00044c571e35928450a8b&amp;z=6">UK trip</a>, I debated whether to bring my iPhone, since I didn&#8217;t really plan to pay AT&amp;T&#8217;s high roaming rates. Ultimately, I brought it because I figured I could find enough Wifi hotspots to use the data features even if I made no calls.</p>
<p>Lesson learned: <em>I&#8217;m always bringing my iPhone in the future!  </em>Although I did make a couple of calls on Mother&#8217;s Day ($1/minute) and send a couple of text messages (50 cents each), and I did find a number of Wifi hotspots (often free), I also:</p>
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<li>Took pictures, a couple of which I sent in real time to Tonia</li>
<li>Used it as an alarm clock when sleeping in hotels that didn&#8217;t provide one</li>
<li>On my laptop in Wifi zones, looked up stuff on the Web (walking maps, etc.) and sent it to the iPhone (via email) once I had the exact map(s) I wanted</li>
<li>used it as an iPod</li>
<li>downloaded podcasts of walking tours of Edinburgh, and transferred them to my iPhone</li>
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<p>On this trip I had my laptop since it was for business. What would be great is if the downloading of generic MP3&#8217;s (not from ITMS) worked seamlessly on the iPhone without requiring syncing. I&#8217;m sure it can&#8217;t be far off.</p>
<p>Bottom line—always take your iPhone. Kick ass.</p>
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		<title>I&#8217;m chairing HotOS 09 &#038; SysML 08</title>
		<link>http://radlab.cs.berkeley.edu/people/fox/wp/2008/04/16/im-chairing-hotos-09-sysml-08/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See the CFP for HotOS (my favorite workshop for new and forward-looking systems ideas; Monte Verità, Switzerland, May 2009) and the CFP for SysML (a great emerging workshop for people using machine learning to attack systems problems; San Diego, CA, Dec. 2008).
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the <a href="http://www.usenix.org/events/hotos09/cfp/cfp.html">CFP for HotOS</a> (my favorite workshop for new and forward-looking systems ideas; Monte Verità, Switzerland, May 2009) and the <a href="http://www.usenix.org/events/sysml08/cfp/cfp.html">CFP for SysML</a> (a great emerging workshop for people using machine learning to attack systems problems; San Diego, CA, Dec. 2008).</p>
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		<title>Programming Language Cross-Training</title>
		<link>http://radlab.cs.berkeley.edu/people/fox/wp/2007/08/18/programming-language-cross-training/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 05:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about a late-curriculum CS course that gives you some kind of nontrivial exposure to a whole bunch of languages, and makes you implement a program that uses bits of all of them?  (ie learn about cross-language programming issues and also get exposed to completely different ways of thinking about problems)
Anyone done this at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a late-curriculum CS course that gives you some kind of nontrivial exposure to a whole bunch of languages, and makes you implement a program that uses bits of all of them?  (ie learn about cross-language programming issues and also get exposed to completely different ways of thinking about problems)</p>
<p>Anyone done this at other schools?</p>
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		<title>Language Smorgasbord</title>
		<link>http://radlab.cs.berkeley.edu/people/fox/wp/2007/08/18/language-smorgasbord/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about a late-curriculum CS course that gives you some kind of nontrivial exposure to a whole bunch of languages, and makes you implement a program that uses bits of all of them?  (ie learn about cross-language programming issues and also get exposed to completely different ways of thinking about problems)
Anyone done this at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a late-curriculum CS course that gives you some kind of nontrivial exposure to a whole bunch of languages, and makes you implement a program that uses bits of all of them?  (ie learn about cross-language programming issues and also get exposed to completely different ways of thinking about problems)</p>
<p>Anyone done this at other schools?</p>
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		<title>The original, original Adventure!</title>
		<link>http://radlab.cs.berkeley.edu/people/fox/wp/2007/08/16/the-original-original-adventure/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i am just barely old enough to be familiar with the original ADVENTURE.
the source code to the ORIGINAL version has been found!  not the Don Woods enhanced version, which looms large in hacker lore and whose source can be found here and which was the basis of early text-based adventures like Zork on the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am just barely old enough to be familiar with the original ADVENTURE.</p>
<p>the <a href="http://jerz.setonhill.edu/if/crowther/">source code to the ORIGINAL version</a> has been found!  not the Don Woods enhanced version, which looms large in hacker lore and whose source can be found <a href="http://www.rickadams.org/adventure/e_downloads.html">here</a> and which was the basis of early text-based adventures like Zork on the Apple II, but the earlier version (1975-76) that Will Crowther wrote based on the real-life Colossal Cave in kentucky. There&#8217;s a corresponding <a href="http://brain.lis.uiuc.edu:2323/opencms/export/sites/default/dhq/vol/001/2/000009.html">scholarly article in a humanities journal</a> (possibly it has moved <a href="http://brain.lis.uiuc.edu:2323/opencms/export/sites/default/dhq/vol/001/2/000009.html">here</a>) about the source code.</p>
<p>The source code was found in an archived copy of Crowther&#8217;s account at stanford AI lab about a year ago.</p>
<p>It is neat to peruse.  it&#8217;s in Fortran IV, the total source code is 13K with an additional 19K file of text data (game messages, numbers describing the connectivity graph of the areas in the game, etc.)  I couldn&#8217;t get it to compile using g77, i assume because of syntactic differences between Fortran 77 and Fortran IV.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s our heritage as hackers!  I think of it as the equivalent of trying to read Chaucer in the original (which, by the way, is another fascinating exercise i recommend if you haven&#8217;t tried it).</p>
<p>UPDATE: Someone has <a href="http://www.russotto.net/~russotto/ADVENT/">ported the code</a> to compile under g77!</p>
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